“Just give them what they want, and they will leave you alone,” is the mantra of those who hate the very idea of self-defense. Too bad it isn’t the guarantee it is held up as. 4 men charged in murder of store clerk in SW Houston.
Violent criminals remain violent criminals without regard to anything you are or are not doing.
Investigators say Qureshi was working at Sunny’s Food Store in the 9000 block of South Dairy Ashford when the suspects entered the store and demanded money.
He complied, but he was still murdered. Officers had a break in the case when police say they noticed a vehicle blocking a lane of traffic.
He gave them what the asked for, and they killed him anyway.
Having a gun for self-defense may not have saved this man. There are no guarantees in this life save for death, and next winter’s snow. But relying on the strategy of “Just do what you’re told to do” is also not a guarantee. You should consider what is the strategy for dealing with a violent encounter you prefer.
We are told again and again, “Just give them what they want, and you will be OK.” I guess these guys didn’t get that memo. Store clerk shot by robbers in Ventura.
While the victim was getting money from the cash register, the armed suspect reportedly shot him, officials said. The victim was treated at Ventura County Medical Center for injuries that were not considered life threatening.
Violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals because of anything you are or are not doing. Cooperation is not a guarantee of safety, it is a strategy for dealing with a violent encounter. Being armed in your own self-defense is also not a guarantee, but some strategies are better than others.
And the Left never brings up the “Just give them what they want” mantra when the subject turns to rape. Or they hardly ever do. (The likelihood of them saying that when rape is under discussion is not zero.)
The Gun-hating Left is always going on about how if you “just give them what they want” the bad guys will leave you alone. I guess these guys didn’t get that memo. Suspects in blue rubber gloves, surgical mask shoot Halifax gas station clerk.
The suspects took money and cigarettes and, while exiting the store, one of the suspects turned around and shot one of the employees.
Violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals because of anything you are, or are not, doing.
Cooperation is a strategy for dealing with a violent encounter. It is not a guarantee. Of course being armed in your own defense is also a strategy. One that is typically blocked by employers. But cooperation is in my estimation, not the best strategy, if that is all you are prepared to do.
Sept 4, 1987 – 31 years ago: A deadly night at the National Supermarket
The history in a nutshell.
Editor’s note: On the night of Sept. 4, 1987, two gunmen entered the National Supermarket store on Natural Bridge in north St. Louis. What followed would be the worst mass killing in the history of the St. Louis Police Department. This is the original report published in the Post-Dispatch.
The store was closed. The victims were employees. The gunmen probably got entrance by some ruse, perhaps posing as “floor cleaners.”
The victims were herded into a corner on the west side of the store, ordered to lie down in a row and were shot execution-style in the head, police said. The store aisles near the office contained pools of blood.
They probably got very little money for all this killing. The store’s money was in a safe that the employees couldn’t open.
Armed security may not have saved anyone. If surprise was total there might have been no chance to defend yourself or others. But cooperation did nothing to ensure anyone’s safety, because violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals due to anything you are doing or not doing. Cooperation is a strategy for dealing with a violent encounter; it is not a guarantee.
Cooperation with criminals is often touted as THE way to ensure your safety in a potentially violent situation. I guess these guys didn’t get that memo. Beaumont Police make first arrest from Valero Robbery that left clerk critically injured.
Three guys ambush a clerk in the parking lot of a business, force him back inside and demand money.
Once inside the store one of the suspects jumped the front counter and demanded money from the clerk. As the 3 suspects were fleeing the store, one of the suspects shot the store clerk. The clerk was transported to a local hospital where he is still listed in critical condition.
This guy had his money and was leaving the store, when he shot the clerk. Violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals because of anything you are or are not doing. Now a gun may not have saved this guy. Just like cooperation is not a guarantee, being armed in your own defense is not a guarantee. (“There are no guarantees in this life save for death and next winter’s snow.”) They are both strategies for dealing with a violent or potentially violent encounter. And since most businesses like their employees to be disarmed, this guy may not have had the option of being armed.
The point to remember is that cooperation will not ensure your safety. As a strategy, I think it lacks several key features. But YMMV.
The clerk was doing what he was asked to do, but the bad guy tried to shoot him anyway. Trigger sticks during armed robbery of Royal Farms.
As the suspect ordered the five patrons down on the floor, police said he struck one of them in the head with the handgun. He then pointed the gun directly at the clerk and demanded money from the store’s register.
DSP indicated that, while the employee was gathering the money, the suspect became agitated and pulled the handgun’s trigger. The weapon did not fire and, after eventually receiving an undisclosed amount of cash from the clerk, fled from the same set of doors in which he entered the store.
So this clerk wasn’t saved by cooperation; he was saved because of poor maintenance, or bad ammo, or blind luck. But not because he was doing what he was asked to do.
Violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals because of any action on your part. You can cooperate. That’s a strategy. I think this incident indicates that it isn’t a very good strategy, but it may be your only option. Still, given that stuff like this happens on a regular basis – and often without the “luck” of a malfunctioning firearm in the mix – you might want to consider what other options you have.
The gun-hating Left is always going on about “If you give the bad guy what he wants, he will leave you alone‡”. I guess this guy didn’t get that memo. Clerk shot during Arlington gas station armed robbery.
The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office says the suspect walked in to the store off Arlington Road and the Arlington Expressway a little after 10:30AM. He allegedly demanded money from the employee, and even though police say the victim complied, the suspect shot the clerk in the torso and then fled.
Violent criminals do not stop being violent criminals because you are cooperating. They remain violent criminals independent of your actions.
Cooperation is a strategy. There are other strategies – like being armed in your own defense. I believe that some strategies are better than others.
Oh, and in 2018, we should have better quality security video. Just sayin’.
‡ regarding the crime of rape: Leftists never want to discuss rape when they bring up that “cooperate” strategy. Did I say never? I meant mostly, because some WILL advise cooperation with a rapist, which isn’t so much as stupid, as purely evil advice.